The Dulce Book
Dulce New Mexico & The Ashtar Connection
(The following is an
edited version of a very extensive file downloaded from
the Internet. Some of the highlights/emphasis are mine. -
Branton)
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The following was
uploaded by a user on ParaNet. It is being provided
in its entirety for information purposes only.
ParaNet or its affiliates makes no claims to its
truthfulness or validity and does not endorse its
contents in any way.
As a
further note:
Under paragraph (3E), it mentions that there are
buildings ... "five-sided with a dome,"
ParaNet has seen photographic evidence of such
buildings. These buildings are not buildings as one
would think of them, but what appear to be wilderness
observation platforms. The Dulce Report denies any of
these buildings appeared in their investigation.
THE
DULCE REPORT
NUMBER 920527
MAY 27, 1992
A Field Investigation
and Evaluation
A PHOENIX PROJECT
REPORT
The "Phoenix
Project Reports" Are Published By
ADVENT PUBLISHING
COMPANY
P.O. Box 3748
Carson City, NV 89702
(Opening
Note:
ParaNet has done an investigation into the PHOENIX
organization which put out this report. Contrary to
the claims of the authors of this document, ParaNet
HAS FOUND obvious links between the PHOENIX PROJECT
and the PHOENIX REPORT, an outlet for the ASHTAR
Collective. One of the 'leaders' and 'spokesmen' for
this collective is a being that goes by the name of
HATONN. Hatonn, according to some sources, is a 9 ft.
'Pleiadean' with severe fascist leanings who claims
to be a reptilian 'defector' from the Unholy Six
Orion-Draconian Empire. Other sources claim that the
Ashtar Collective -- or at least a large segment of
the collective which was infiltrated and assimilated
by Draco-Orion agents posing as "ascended
masters" -- is now in direct collaboration with
the reptilian Grays and the 'Unholy Six'. In such an
event, it would NOT be surprising for the Draco-Orion
controlled segment of the Ashtar network to seek to
discredit a base under Dulce, New Mexico IF IN FACT
the base is being controlled and operated jointly by
Draconian AND Ashtarian forces... for instance the
joint Draconian-Ashtarian forces which, some believe,
are operating in conjuction with the anomalous
"Hale-Bopp" comet. Since the original
document-chain in which the 'Dulce Report' appears
contains over 140 KB's and is an obvious smear effort
-- for instance throughout the document you will read
passage after passage containing phrases like
"...there is no evidence" for phenomena
which HAVE been confirmed by several other
researchers -- I have decided not to waste valuable
space, and have eliminated the rambling and innocuous
sweeping opinionated attempts on the part of the
authors to wipe the entire Dulce issue under the
carpet. I have instead gleaned the information which
may be useful to those who accept the obvious fact
that 'something' is actually going on near Dulce, New
Mexico. Whether it involves top secret government
activity OR alien activity OR both is debatable. The
fact is, something strange IS happening in and around
Dulce, New Mexico. - Branton)
The document begins as
follows:
...The Town of Dulce,
is located in northern New Mexico near the southern
border of Colorado. Dulce is located eighty-three
miles northeast of Farmington, New Mexico on U.S.
Route 64. See Map Exhibit 1.
It has a population of
1,648 and is nestled in a valley. Just to the north
and overlooking the town is the large Archuleta Mesa.
The town is at an altitude of 6,825 feet above sea
level. The main income producing activity in the area
is cattle ranching. The business and service
activities are typical of those needed in a community
of this size. There are no military or industrial
activities, large or small, in the area. See Photo
Exhibits 4 and 5.
In order to present
the results of our investigation it is necessary to
refer to items of information, widely available to
UFO researchers, concerning the Dulce, U.S.\Alien
base. In the following, we will quote from those
items of information. We will attempt to identify the
source whenever possible. This will be followed by
our findings.
The
Investigation
1) Source Information Excerpts:
Dulce Papers.Txt Author Unknown
...A joint US/EBE
facility exists beneath the Archuleta Mesa near the
town of DULCE NEW MEXICO. (1A) This facility has been
in existence in one form or another since 1948.
(1B) ...The facility proper is
located one kilometer underground.
(1C) The base is approximately
2.5 miles northwest of Dulce, and almost
overlooks the town.
(1D) There is a paved
government road 36 feet wide going into the area.
* * *
Findings of Phoenix
Project Investigation (PHX) regarding the foregoing:
(PHX-1A) No substantiating County
records confirm this. Local residents have no
memory of any government installation, civilian
or military ever having existed in this area.
(PHX-1B) Same as 1A. There is no
record or memory of any underground heavy
construction, excavation, or mining activity in
the area.
* * *
2) Source Information Excerpts:
1988 Krill2.Txt
...During the
occupation of the Greys, they have established quite
a number of underground bases all over the world,
especially in the United States. (2A) One such base
[among others in the same state] is under Archuleta
Mesa, which is about 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce,
New Mexico.
The foregoing extract
is from a transcript of a conversation between Jim
McCampbell and Dr. Paul Bennewitz on July 13, 1984...
* * *
3) Source Information Excerpts:
1988 Krill2.Txt
(3A) ...Bennewitz reports he
was able to determine the location of the
underground facility: a kilometer underground
beneath Archuleta Mesa on the Jicarilla Apache
Indian Reservation near Dulce, New Mexico [since
1976, one of the areas of the U.S. hardest hit by
mutilations].
(3B) Bennewitz' information is
that this installation is operated jointly as
part of an on-going program of cooperation
between the U.S. government and the EBEs.
Back to the base under
discussion. After Bennewitz briefed Air Force
officials on what he had found, a trip to the area
revealed the following data:
(3C) The base is 2.5 miles
northwest of Dulce, and almost overlooks the
town.
(3D) There is a level highway
36 feet wide going into the area. It is a
government road.
(3E) One can see telemetry
trailers and buildings that are five-sided with a
dome. Next to the domes, a black limousine was
noted -- a CIA vehicle.
(3F) These limos will run you
off the road if you try to get into the area.
(3G) To the north there is a
launch site.
(3H) There are two wrecked
ships there; they are 36 feet long with wings,
and one can see oxygen and hydrogen tanks. The
ships that we got out of the trade are
atomic-powered with plutonium pellets. Refueling
of the plutonium is accomplished at Los Alamos.
(3I) The base has been there
since 1948.
Some of the disks are
piloted by the NSA.
(3J) The base is 4,000 feet
long
(3K) and helicopters are going
in and out of there all the time. When it became
known that Bennewitz was familiar with this, the
mutilations in the area stopped.
(3L) In 1979, something
happened and the base was temporarily closed.
There was an argument over weapons and our people
were chased out. The aliens killed 66 of our
people, and 44 got away.
(Side
Note:
Christa Tilton claims that the government activity at
Dulce may no longer be present, as there are signs
that the upper levels have been de-activated, at
least in regards to human government activity.
Sightings of Greys atop the Archuleta mesa HAVE been
reported by Jicarilla Apache Indians as of the early
1990's. Such reports have made their way to Christa
Tilton, suggesting that even if the 'government'
activity at Dulce has ceased, the Greys/Reptiloids
are apparently still operating there en masse and
very active within the base, and are continuing on
with their former agendas. - Branton)
One of the people who
in fact got away was a CIA agent who, before leaving,
made some notes, photos, and videotapes, and went
into hiding. He has been in hiding ever since, and
every six months he contacts each of five people he
left copies of the material with. His instructions
were that if he missed four successive contacts, the
people could do whatever they want with the material.
[The material] was received in December, 1987, by
many researchers. The "Dulce Papers" were
composed of 25 black and white photos, a videotape
with no dialogue and a set of papers that included
technical information regarding the jointly occupied
[CIA-Alien] facility one kilometer beneath the
Archuleta Mesa near Dulce, New Mexico.
(3M) The facility still exists
and is currently operational.
* * *
Findings: (I've
deleted SEVERAL paragraphs which basically state --
in the most technical sounding terminology the
authors could conjure -- that ALL of the above
"doesn't exist". - Branton)...
* * *
4) Source Information Excerpts:
"PROJECT BETA" BY DR. PAUL BENNEWITZ
(4A)...numerous road blocks
extend northward.
(4B) Maintained road some
thirty feet wide and servicing facilities, tanks,
etc. There is also an apparent foundation for
another helo pad______
(4C) human housing, and
another black limousine with tracks leading to it
west of the road.
...The total alien
basing area apparently contains several cultures,
[all under the designation 'UNITY']
(4D) and is approx 3km wide by
8km long and is located in the middle of nowhere
on the Jicarilla Indian Reservation west of
Dulce, NM. ...Based on the number of ships
presently in this area, the total alien
population is estimated to be at least 2,000 and
most likely MORE. (The former self-professed
Dulce base Security Officer Thomas C. Castello
stated that there were over 18,000 Greys based
under Dulce while he was there. - Branton)
-----
Logistical plans -----
...initial logistics
would indicate a plan sequentially implemented as
follows: This plan does not include all requirements
and preparatory safety measures to be employed by the
ground force; however, if Air Force Intelligence
desires to pursue the approaches suggested in this
report, each significant requirement will be
discussed in depth.
(4E) The attack must be
directed almost entirely on the ground since
vehicle ignition problems will be encountered.
All electrical and electronic equipment must be
'hardened' using specific techniques perfected
prior to implementation. This information has
been checked by interaction and eavesdropping on
their communication channels _______ as far as
weaknesses are concerned. The program would be
instigated in phases:
(4F)
1) The first procedure would be
to close the gates of the dam above the
Navajo River. This dam could be held closed
for the duration. Internal to the one cave,
there is a small dam for water storage. Its
capacity is small.
(4G) There is also a discharge
outlet downstream that could be closed, causing
waste water to back up into the caves. The water
is vacuum pumped apparently by some electrostatic
means from the river.
(4H) There is a water intake
and dam upstream that can be totally cut off and
the water re-routed to Chama, New Mexico.
* * *
Findings: (refer to
last note... MUCH MORE of the same innocuous and
rambling evasiveness. However if you really ARE
determined to see the entire file, I suppose you
could log-on to PARANET via the Internet and access
it. - Branton)...
* * *
5) Source Information Excerpt
Thisisit.Txt Wm. C. Cooper
...The alien
underground base is located beneath an indian
reservation near the small town of Dulce, New
Mexico...
* * *
Findings:
All of the previous
'Findings' apply to this source information...
* * *
Signed,
The Phoenix Project
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Michael,
Didn't Bill Moore
get tangled up in this situation? Didn't this
whole episode cause Paul Bennewitz to have a
nervous breakdown? Do you have any further
documentation on this aspect of the
investigation? I for one would like to find out
where some [if not all] of the disinformation
came from. Are there any other investigations
"The Phoenix Project" is working on?
Thanks,
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Subject: Re: Dulce Report - Conclusion
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> Dear Michael:
> I read all of
the information that you posted and appreciated
your
> work and the
work of the Phoenix Report but I don't believe
it. It
> doesn't add
up to me and I won't explain why. You may be
right
> and I'm
wrong. I hope I am wrong in this case. That's all
folks.
> John Winston.
First, that was not my
work, nor did I have anything to do with it. Someone
uploaded that material to ParaNet and I simply
reposted it with permission. I have found numerous
problems with it myself and, although I do not
necessarily believe that something is happening at
Dulce, I think that the Phoenix material is just more
disinformation...
Mike
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* Forwarded from
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* Originally from
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* Originally dated
07-12-92 22:01
Recently we published
two reports generated by the Phoenix Project, a group
in Carson City, Nevada. These two documents allege
that members of this group investigated reports of
underground alien bases in Dulce, New Mexico, and an
underground alien base located in the Plumas National
Forest in Northern California.
(Note: Basically their
investigation 'proved' that the Dulce base did
NOT exist, but that the 'K2' UFO base in
California DID! Why do I get the feeling that IF
the K2 base DOES in fact exist, then we should
not be too concerned about it? Could it be that
there is an actual alien force based in the
Plumes National Forest that is CONTESTING the
activities at Dulce? Just remember that for every
visible conflict, there is often an invisible
conflict taking place behind the scenes. Often
the 'pawns' cannot see who the real "chess
players" are. - Branton)
Because of the
following findings/reasons, ParaNet has assigned a
high level of probability that the material contained
in the documents is disinformation and is inaccurate.
The reasons are as
follows:
1) The Phoenix Project is
unknown to the general UFO research community. No
where in any of the materials are the principals
of the organization identified. As is the case
with any materials where substantive findings are
reported, it demonstrates a strong lack of
credibility when the names and addresses of the
investigators are not provided.
2) Due to an investigation
that has been ongoing, we have found that the
material on Dulce is inaccurate. It is
interesting that the Dulce report denies that
ANYTHING exists at Dulce. Although we have found
no information to the contrary, we feel that the
report from the Phoenix Project is inaccurate as
to location of buildings and other factors. There
are things down there which ARE unusual.
3) The K2 material is too
ambiguous and does not provide enough reliable
data bits to launch an investigation into the
claims. It appears that although the report is
written with some literary license, the findings
are presented in a very unscientific fashion.
ParaNet will provide a
complete report of its investigation into the various
other claims contained in the reports as soon as the
information is available. We have written to the
Phoenix Project requesting further information.
In the meantime, we
urge caution in the use of this material.
Michael Corbin
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* Forwarded from
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07-26-92 23:56
Over the last few days
we have been posting information supplied by the
Phoenix Project of Carson City, Nevada. This
information has been strongly disclaimed by ParaNet
pending the results of our investigation to determine
the validity of the Phoenix Project and its officers.
While the
investigation is still ongoing, we have found some
highly disturbing things relating to credibility of
the group. This information will be reported as soon
as the investigation is completed. This should be in
the next few days.
Until this
investigation is complete and the findings published,
ParaNet wishes to urge everyone not to send any money
to the group.
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A few weeks ago,
ParaNet received on-line copies of several documents
which purported to come from a previously unknown
organization called "The Phoenix Project".
The project is described in the documents as a
"private, civilian, research organization"
which was "formed in 1952 to investigate and
correlate information" concerning UFOs and ETs.
According to the information contained in the
documents, for a small price one can receive printed
copies of the project's reports, complete with maps,
magnetometer readings, and a host of other supporting
charts and diagrams which serve to make the whole
endeavor look scientific and legitimate.
The documents we
received were formulated as investigative reports on
two of the hottest and most controversial issues
within the UFO research community: the underground
alien bases which are said to exist at numerous
locations around the United States, and the cluster
of alleged UFO-related projects sometimes referred to
collectively as "Operation Majestic
Twelve". Specifically, the material consisted of
three separate documents:
(1) "The Ultimate
Secret", originally dated 4 August 1989 and
revised most recently 5 May 1992, purporting to
lay bare the inner workings of the government's
secret UFO projects, including the recovery of
alien technology and bodies from crashed UFOs,
the exploitation of this technology by a number
of code-named government projects, and the
involvement of NASA and the SDI program in
preparing for CONFLICT with alien INVADERS;
(2) "The Dulce
Report", dated 27 May 1992, describing an
on-site investigation of the Dulce and Archuleta
Mesa area in New Mexico, which purportedly proved
beyond any doubt that there is nothing there of
any interest to UFO researchers despite
PERSISTENT reports to the contrary; and
(3) "The K-2
Report", originally dated 28 July 1989 and
revised 27 June 1992, which purports to document
the discovery of a genuine "secret alien
base" in the Pilot Peak area of Plumas
County, California.
ParaNet quickly
reviewed this material and posted it in its entirety
for our subscribers, pursuant to the permissions
attached to the material by the publisher. We also
posted a preliminary evaluation which warned that the
material might contain inaccuracies or deliberate
disinformation. This evaluation was based on a number
of factors:
(1) much of the information
in "The Ultimate Secret" about
Operation Majestic Twelve and associated projects
is clearly related to, and probably derived from,
earlier material which has been dismissed as
worthless by almost all reputable UFO
researchers;
(2) much of the information
in "The Dulce Report" about Dulce and
the Archuleta Mesa contradicts information
already provided to ParaNet by other capable
investigators;
(3) some of the information
in "The K-2 Report" is intrinsically
implausible [although, admittedly, not
impossible], such as the claim that a seasoned
military intelligence operative 'forgot' his
camera when rushing to document a UFO landing
site, or that by the next day that same landing
site had been re-sodded by the aliens to
obliterate all the evidence.
ParaNet received the
three documents as uploads from a Mr. Jack L. Mathias
of Carson City, Nevada, who represented himself as
the sole public spokesman for the Project. But the
reports themselves name neither the authors of the
documents nor the principals of the Phoenix Project.
Instead, they cryptically state that they are the
work of "former military personnel who have all
been associated with intelligence activities, and
have knowledge of covert government operations
concerning UFO's" (AND also 'disinformation'
projects? - Branton). Given the sorry history of
anonymous documents and 'former' government agents in
the UFO community, ParaNet felt it necessary to start
its own investigation in an effort to determine just
who was behind the Phoenix Project and what their
motives might be.
First we sent a letter
to the post office box listed in the documents,
asking for further information about the group; but
the letter was not answered. We corresponded by
electronic mail with Mr. Mathias, who represents
himself as an agent for the group, but he refused to
provide any of the information we requested. So much
for the direct approach.
Each document formally
states that the Phoenix Project logo is a registered
trademark [presumably in the state of Nevada, since
that is where their mailing address is located], so
we tried a query to the Nevada trademark office in
Carson City. That office informed us that the state
of Nevada has NO record of any current trademarks
under the "Phoenix Project" name. They did
say that articles of incorporation were filed under
the name of the Phoenix Project on 25 August 1988 by
a Mr. Thomas Naylor of Las Vegas, Nevada. However,
the corporation failed to file the names and
addresses of its officers by 1 July 1989 as required
by Nevada law, as a result of which the incorporation
was revoked by the Nevada Secretary of State. And so
we reached another apparent dead end, except for one
bit of trivia uncovered by a ParaNet investigator in
Las Vegas: An attorney named Thomas C. Naylor had
recently moved into an office building at 2810 West
Charleston in Las Vegas.
Next we contacted the
U.S. Postal Service in Carson City, Nevada to
determine the box holder for the Phoenix Project's
publisher, Advent Publishing Company. We were told
that the box was registered to a Richard T. Miller,
whose address was given as a mobile-home park in
Carson City. Following this, we contacted the Clerk
and Recorder's office in Carson City, and determined
that a Richard Miller is listed with them as the
legal owner of Advent Publishing. However, the
telephone number they gave us for Mr. Miller has been
disconnected, and directory assistance was unable to
provide a new one. Another brick wall.
To this point, all
attempts to verify the Phoenix Project's legitimacy
using conventional methods had proved futile, so we
decided to try a different approach. The Phoenix
Project explicitly and emphatically disclaims
affiliation with any other groups using the name
'Phoenix'. And just to make sure everyone gets the
message, each document states at the beginning that
"[i]n particular, there is no affiliation with a
publisher known as America West, any of its
publications, or the individuals known as George and
Desiree Green" (Note: one source has informed us
that George Green has ties to the CIA. However, this
source was not able to confirm this claim, and so it
should be taken only as a 'possibility'. - Branton).
Unfortunately, ParaNet has uncovered evidence that
these disclaimers may be intended to conceal rather
than to illuminate.
America West, it turns
out, is the publisher of a magazine called the
Phoenix Liberator, which carries large quantities of
channeled material alleged to originate with an
entity from the Pleiades known as 'Hatonn'. The
Phoenix Liberator has come under fire recently from
some in the UFO community as anti-Semitic and
neo-fascist. [See, for example, "Hatonn's World:
A Neo-Nazi ET?" by Don Ecker in the July/August
1992 issue of UFO Magazine.]
(Note: According to the video
'SECRETS OF THE THIRD REICH' -- available via
Vladimir Terziski, President, American Academy of
Dissident Sciences, 10970 Ashton Ave. #310, Los
Angeles, CA 90024, phone and fax:
USA-(310)-473-9717 -- the Nazi Thule society not
only 'channeled' the Ashtar forces, but had
developed several aerial disc designs,
photographs of which are depicted in the film.
One disc type was the 'Adamski' model. Whether
Adamski's contacts were actually 'Nazis'
masquerading as 'Venusians', or whether the
Nazi's had somehow gained access to a
Venusian-Pleiadean scout ship is not clear at
this time, however John Lear has stated that a
small renegade 'Pleiadean' faction in Aldebaran
which had sold itself over to the
Ashtarian-Draconian agenda, had intentionally
'crashed' one of their ships -- loaded to the
hilt with high-tech equipment -- so that they
could get the technology to their
Germanic/Bavarian allies while at the same time
making an effort to seemingly by-pass the
established non-intervention laws of the
Saturnian-Lyran-Pleiadean-Andromedan
'Federation'. Lear also claims that this
Pleiadean-Ashtarian faction also wanted Germany
to initiate a war which hopefully would reduce
the population of the planet to a point where the
Ashtar/Gizeh alliance or collective could
establish more influence with less resistance in
the international affairs of planet earth... this
collaboration with the Bavarians also being
motivated by certain extremist Interventionist
and RACIST factions from Lyra and Aldebaran who
were intent on making their 'Aryan' brothers on
earth the dominant race. - Branton).
But 'Hatonn' and his
defenders vehemently deny the charge [of being
'Nazis'], and the whole affair has been widely and
rather nastily trumpeted both on the net and in
print.
It seems that until
recently America West Publishers and the Phoenix
Liberator were operated out of TEHACHAPI, California
(Which, according to many investigative sources, is a
MAJOR center for collaborative alien and
military-industrial activity - Branton). But a few
days ago one of ParaNet's subscribers uploaded a
response from 'Hatonn' to Don Ecker, which he said he
had pulled down from the Phoenix Liberator BBS; and
with it he posted a new address for the Liberator.
That address was all too familiar: 2810 West
Charleston Boulevard, Las Vegas, Nevada -- THE SAME
BUILDING, it seems, where an attorney named Thomas
Naylor also has his new office.
And then another
strange coincidence: A posting coming across the
Internet stated that before 'Hatonn' channeled
through his current host, he used to convey his
messages through a Mr. RICHARD MILLER, who started an
organization which was known as the Solar Cross and
which was apparently a forerunner of the Phoenix
Liberator
(Note: These 'channeled'
messages are apparently recieved through psionic
beams from hovering craft which interact with
micro-electronic implants that have been placed
in various individuals who have been 'connected'
to the Ashtar collective in this manner. -
Branton).
Is this the same
RICHARD MILLER who owns the Phoenix Project's
publisher, Advent Publishing Company?
We do not yet know if
the THOMAS NAYLOR who tried to incorporate the
Phoenix Project is the same THOMAS NAYLOR who
apparently SHARES 2810 West Charleston with the new
offices of the Phoenix Liberator. We do not yet know
if the RICHARD MILLER who owns Advent Publishing is
the same RICHARD MILLER who reportedly once channeled
'Hatonn'. In short, we do not yet know if the Phoenix
Project is truly an independent organization, or
merely another incarnation of America West Publishers
and the Phoenix Liberator. But the coincidences are
certainly striking and suggestive. And in light of
this we again urge extreme caution in dealing with
the Phoenix Project material, until such time as a
definitive assessment of the Project's motives and
reliability can be made.
ParaNet will keep you
advised of our findings as they become available. If
you have any information about the Phoenix Project,
especially regarding its possible relationship with
the Phoenix Liberator or America West Publishers,
please send it to Michael Corbin by Internet mail to
mcorbin@paranet.org; by Fidonet to 1:104/422; by U.S.
Mail to P.O. Box 172, Wheat Ridge, CO 80034-0172; or
by phone at 303-431-8796.
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On 6 August 1992,
ParaNet Information Service posted a preliminary
statement on our investigation into an organization
known as the Phoenix Project, which had recently
released "investigative reports" entitled
"The Dulce Report", "The K-2
Report", and "The Ultimate Secret". In
our statement we pointed out some apparent problems
with all three Phoenix Project reports, as well as
some suspicious aspects of the Project's organization
itself. In our conclusion, we issued a warning not to
take the Phoenix Project reports at face value,
pending further investigation.
On 10 August 1992,
Jack Mathias of the Phoenix Project responded in a
long, rambling message posted to a number of bulletin
boards and news groups. Unfortunately, rather than
dealing with the substantive issues raised in our
previous postings regarding the project and its
publications, Mr. Mathias's statement consisted
mostly of ad-hominem attacks impugning the motives,
integrity, and competence of ParaNet's officers and
investigators. Here is some typical language
excerpted from the Phoenix Project statement:
" ... you
blew it ..."
" ... a snap
judgement without examining the evidence
..."
" ... your
spontaneous and instant negative reaction
..."
" ... your
attitude problem ..."
" ... you
abused your position of trust and responsibility
..."
" ...
inexcusable ... a new record for prejudice
..."
" ... you've
just won the Golden Fleece Award ..."
" ...
outstanding ineptness ..."
" ... amateur
sleuthing ..."
" ...
self-centered ..."
" ... lacking
any real expertise ..."
" ... seated
upon your starry throne ..."
" ... elected
yourself to be the final arbiter of the truth
..."
" ... Judge,
Jury, and Executioner ..."
" ...
Kangaroo Court Proceeding of your own fashioning
..."
" ...
arm-chair expertise ..."
" ...
laughable ..."
Following paragraph
after paragraph of this kind of personal invective,
Mr. Mathias then suggests that:
PP> In our opinion, the
public deserves the truth regarding the real
PP>
story of UFO's, government involvement and the
Alien threat.
PP> That
should be our objective. ... Perhaps you'll agree
that, that
PP>
objective is more productive than entertaining
the public via the
PP>
BBS links with a side-show of petty squabbles and
bickering
PP>
between individuals and organizations.
This is a noble
sentiment, and one which we at ParaNet wholeheartedly
agree with. Hopefully in the future the Phoenix
Project's representatives will take some of their own
advice and try to keep the rhetoric down to a more
civilized level.
Having said that,
let's look at the actual issues raised by this latest
salvo from the Phoenix Project, and see how they
stack up.
PP> Let us review the
facts. You reacted by issuing a public warning
PP>
to the members of ParaNet, which was also widely
distributed via
PP>
other BBS's nation-wide. That warning contained
language which
PP>
implied the information, and the source, were
highly suspect.
PP>
Thus, single-handedly, you created a strong
impression throughout
PP>
the UFO community, that our information was
false. Many sincere
PP>
people, trusting your qualifications, accepted
your warning.
True.
PP> You took it upon
yourself to make a snap judgement without
PP>
examining the evidence.
False. We did not
arrive at our conclusion single-handedly or
instantaneously. Our analysis and the resulting
warning were the products of considerable discussion
among ParaNet's researchers and subscribers. They
were also labeled as tentative, pending further
investigation.
PP> In your message, you
mention that you wrote to the Phoenix Project,
PP>
after the fact and your preliminary judgement,
requesting further
PP>
information. You made the same comment in other
BBS messages.
PP>
You state that we did not respond to your
request. You also imply,
PP>
by insinuation, that this is a mark against us
and a further indication
PP>
that we are suspect. ... To date we have not
received your letter of
PP>
inquiry. Apparently, of all the mail we receive,
your letter is the
PP>
only one that has gone astray. We can only
conclude that it was either
PP>
lost in the mail or you didn't mail it. Did it
ever occur to you to
PP>
mail us a second request, when you did not
receive a response to your
PP>
first inquiry?
The letter was
followed up with electronic mail to the Project's
spokesman, Jack Mathias. The request for information
was repeated through that channel. The request was
refused.
PP> But, this was not the
end of your attitude problem regarding the
PP>
Phoenix Project. You did the same thing, again,
issuing warnings,
PP>
etc., with our release of the K-2 and the
Ultimate Secret Reports.
PP>
And, again, you had not seen or examined the
supporting documents
PP>
at the time you issued those warnings to ParaNet
and the public.
We have already stated
our reasons for suspecting the 'K-2' and
"Ultimate Secret" reports. As with the
'Dulce' report, our suspicions went to the core of
the entire concept and execution of both reports;
consequently, it seemed unlikely that the
"supporting documents" would make much
difference. Our judgement in this matter was borne
out when we received the "supporting
documents" from another source. We were not
impressed.
PP> Would we be out of
line in concluding that your mind was already
PP>
made-up?
Yes, that would be out
of line, since our minds were not and in fact are not
yet entirely made up. Our warnings were tentative,
and in our view totally justified. So far we have not
been provided with any evidence to the contrary. If
such evidence is provided, we will not only change
our minds but say so publicly.
PP> Fortunately, for the
UFO Movement, other investigators and
PP>
researchers don't share your opinion.
That's not the
feedback we've been getting.
PP> You state in your
initial message that "much of the
information
PP>
in the Dulce Report about Dulce and the Archuleta
Mesa contradicts
PP>
information already provided to ParaNet by other
capable
PP>
investigators." What information? Who
provided it? How did
PP>
you determine its validity?
Our information
consists of the testimony of ParaNet investigators
and others who have been in Dulce and on the Mesa.
Their experiences were very different from what you
describe, and it is difficult to reconcile your
claims with the findings of our own people.
PP> We formally request
access to that information. We'd like to
PP> examine it ourselves.
Can we obtain copies of 'that' information?
Our investigation
continues, and the information will be made public
when it is complete. At that time we will be glad to
provide you with a complimentary copy of our report.
PP> Now, let us get to the
main thrust of your message - your
PP>
investigation to reveal the personnel of the
Phoenix Project.
PP>
PP>
[several paragraphs of meaningless abuse deleted]
PP>
PP>
What, if anything, is the Phoenix Project guilty
of? Is it
PP>
the fact that we dared to question and
investigate two of the
PP>
sacred cows of UFO-dom namely the ones you
mentioned, i.e.,
PP>
"underground alien bases, and the cluster of
government projects
PP>
referred to collectively as Operation Majestic
Twelve?"
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Subject: Phoenix Response - Part 2
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No. ParaNet has long
questioned both of those sacred cows. To this point
we have seen no acceptable PROOF for the existence of
any underground alien base near Dulce, nor have we
seen adequate proof for the existence of
"Operation Majestic Twelve". We have
publicly stated as much on many occasions. (Note: I
personally believe that there is much 'evidence' for
underground activity near Dulce. As for 'proof' --
along the line of a Network video crew broadcasting a
Live Special Report from inside the Dulce underground
labs or something of the sort -- admittedly that kind
of 'proof' is yet to be forthcoming. - Branton)
PP> According to our
sources within the intelligence community, the
PP>
Dulce Scam, perpetrated by the disinformation
specialists of MAJI,
PP>
better known to you as Majestic Twelve with help
from the CIA and
PP>
NSA, is considered one of their most brilliant
success stories.
But, of course, these
'sources' cannot be named, and all we have to go on
is your word that they even exist. And,
unfortunately, you are making a concerted effort to
keep anyone from knowing who *you* are, either.
Anonymous stories relayed by anonymous story tellers.
Sorry, but that's not 'evidence'.
PP> We sent in experienced
investigators, not amateurs, to check out
PP>
the alleged Dulce Base. Those people knew what to
look for, how
PP>
to look for it, how to get answers, and are not
easily mislead.
We have no evidence
for this except your say-so.
PP> If you do not agree
with our findings, get off your posterior, go
PP>
to Dulce, and check it out for yourself.
We have.
PP> In fact, we invite
anybody to do the same thing. We're sure you'll
PP>
find exactly what we did ...
We didn't.
PP> You imply that you're
good at asking questions -- how are you
PP>
at answering them? We have a few questions ...
Would you mind
PP>
sharing with all of us, everyone on the BBS's and
the public, what
PP>
hard evidence you have that, without question,
supports the presence
PP>
and validity of the Dulce Base.
Would you mind sharing
what hard evidence you have that we ever said
anything of the kind? We have never said anything in
support of the presence of a secret alien base at
Dulce. In point of fact, we consider it extremely
unlikely that any such base exists -- at Dulce or
anywhere else. That's one of the reasons we have so
much trouble with your 'K-2' report, which purports
to document the existence of just such a base in
California.
PP> Unless you have
irrefutable evidence to present, made available
PP>
for public scrutiny and evaluation, which
invalidates the findings
PP>
of the Phoenix Project regarding Dulce, K-2, or
the Ultimate Secret,
PP>
or our future reports, back off. Either put-up or
shut-up. In other
PP>
words, get off our back.
All right, challenge
accepted. Let's start with this statement from your
"Ultimate Secret" report:
PP> According to
eye-witness testimony, the CIA agent
PP>
in charge of this covert operation, wearing the
PP>
uniform of an AF Colonel, was William C. Cooper.
...
PP>
This witness testifies that this is the same
William C.
PP>
Cooper, who has been prominent since 1988 in the
PP>
civilian UFO movement.
Is this "William
C. Cooper" supposed to be the famous Bill Cooper
we have all come to know so well? Apparently so.
Unfortunately, in his own published documents Bill
Cooper gives his full name as "Milton William
Cooper", not "William C. Cooper".
Either Cooper doesn't know his own name, or the
Phoenix Project's "eye witness" doesn't
know what he's talking about.
And while we're on the
subject of Bill Cooper, it is instructive to compare
some of the text of the Phoenix Project's
"Ultimate Secret" document with some of
Bill Cooper's material on the same subject. Cooper
writes in his "Operation Majority -- Final
Release":
BC> [Project Grudge] was
financed by CIA confidential funds
BC>
[nonappropriated] and money from the illicit drug
trade ...
BC>
The purpose of Project Grudge was to collect all
scientific,
BC>
technological, medical and intelligence
information from
BC>
UFO/IAC sightings and contacts with alien life
forms. This
BC>
orderly file of collected information has been
used to advance
BC>
the United States Space Program.
Now look at the
corresponding paragraph of the Phoenix Project's
"Ultimate Secret" report:
PP> Project Aquarius was
funded by CIA confidential funds
PP>
[non-appropriated] ... The purpose of Project
Aquarius
PP>
was to collect all scientific, technological,
medical
PP>
and intelligence information from UFO/IAC
sightings and
PP>
contacts with alien lifeforms. This orderly file
of collected
PP>
information has been used to advance the United
States'
PP>
Space Program and provided the data needed to
develop
PP>
present stealth technology.
You don't have to be
an intelligence agent to see that these two passages
are virtually identical in both content and phrasing.
Since Cooper's statement is dated 10 January 1989,
more than half a year before the "Ultimate
Secret" report's 'origination' date of 4 August
1989, we seem to be left with three possibilities:
(1) Cooper was somehow privy
to the Phoenix Project's investigative results
even before they were first put to paper; or,
(2) the Phoenix Project
plagiarized Cooper's writings; or
(3) the Phoenix Project's own
investigations drew on the same [original]
sources as Cooper apparently did in compiling his
own materials. Whichever one you pick, it's not a
pretty picture.
But it gets worse:
PP> The basic information
revealing the existence of
PP>
Operation Majestic-12, the crashed UFOs, alien
beings,
PP>
and their secret bases within the United States,
was
PP>
obtained through the Freedom of Information Act
from the
PP>
files of the CIA, NSA, FBI, State Department, the
U.S.
PP> Air
Force.
This is utter
nonsense, as any perusal of published FOIA documents
on UFOs would quickly reveal. FOIA requests have
forced the government to disgorge many hundreds of
pages of UFO documents over the years, but they
provide little if any support for the existence of
Operation Majestic Twelve, crashed saucers, alien
beings, or secret bases. If the Phoenix Project is
relying on already published documents as their
source for this claim [e.g., "The UFO
Cover-UP" by Lawrence Fawcett and Barry
Green-wood, or "Above Top Secret" by
Timothy Good], then clearly they have not examined
them very carefully. On the other hand, if the
project really does have such explosive FOIA
documents in its possession, let's see them; their
publication would do more to establish the project's
credibility than anything else it could possibly do
short of producing a live alien.
PP> PROJECT GRUDGE: This
project was originally
PP>
established in 1953, by order of President
Eisenhower
PP>
and is under the control of the CIA, NSA, and
MAJI.
PP>
Project Grudge went underground and another
project,
PP>
Project Sign, was established as a cover
operation.
PP>
In 1960, the Project's name was changed from
Project
PP>
SIGN to Project Bluebook.
This is demonstrably
and totally wrong. Project Sign was established
first, in 1947, and it was under the control of the
Air Force, not the CIA. The name was changed to
Project Grudge in 1949, and to Blue Book in 1952 --
not 1960. [For details, see "The Report on
Unidentified Flying Objects" by Edward J.
Ruppelt, who headed the project from 1951 to 1953.]
The exact dates slide around a little bit depending
on whether you're talking about when the decision was
made, when the order was signed, or when the order
became effective; but the differences are on the
order of months, not decades! How could the Phoenix
Project's experienced intelligence agents make so
many ludicrous errors in a single paragraph?
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In fact, this whole
business was such an embarrassing mess that the
Phoenix Project issued a 'correction' document to try
to straighten it out. But, ironically, the correction
is also wrong -- just less obviously so.
We could go on, but I
think you get the point. The "Ultimate
Secret" report is, at best, a rehash of other
people's garbage. At worst, it is a deliberate effort
to confuse and disinform.
PP> We actively encourage
other serious investigators to use the
PP>
information we have provided as a basis for
conducting their
PP>
own inquiry and to carry-on our effort. Can you,
Mr. Corbin,
PP>
or ParaNet, or Mufon, make the same claim. Or, is
it true that
PP>
the results of critical investigations are held
sacred by the
PP>
elite leadership of these organizations, and are
not shared with
PP>
the member's of their organizations or the
public?
We can't speak for
other organizations, but in the case of ParaNet we
have always made our results public as soon as our
investigations are complete.
PP> In your message, you
insinuate that because of our past military
PP>
and intelligence backgrounds, our area of
expertise so-to-speak,
PP>
that the motives of the Phoenix Project are
suspect. You further
PP>
insinuate that we are possibly government
operatives attempting
PP>
to send serious researchers off on a variety of
wild goose chases.
Given the prior
history of government disinformation in ufology, most
of it purveyed by active or former intelligence
agents and their victims, anyone who
(1) purports to have a
military intelligence background,
(2) refuses to divulge their
identity, and
(3) propagates known
disinformation as reliable intelligence [whether
deliberately or not] should expect his motives to
be considered suspect until proven otherwise. It
is extremely naive of you to think it would
happen any other way.
PP> If anyone needed
assurance that the truth regarding UFO's
PP>
will remain a deep, dark, secret -- they can rest
secure in
PP>
the knowledge that you, are on the job. There are
any number
PP>
of government agencies who would welcome you with
open arms.
PP>
Expect some offers.
Sorry, none so far.
We'll let you know if we get any.
PP> We are sure that the
honest and sincere members of ParaNet and
PP>
other UFO investigative organizations [and there
are many] must
PP>
be seriously considering whether your
qualifications, fitness and
PP>
investigative ability warrant your continuance in
a position of
PP>
leadership within what used to be a respected
research organization.
(Note: In my own experience with
misiformation, disinformation and dubunker 'agents',
very little effort is made to address the information
at hand or rationally explain-away information,
claims or data that is being released by an
individual. Most of the efforts on the part of such
agents are directed against the individuals
themselves, as in character assassinations and
attacks. In many cases they KNOW that they cannot
refute the information, so they attempt to discredit
the information through character assassination. Do
police officers immediately "discredit"
what a drug dealer tells them when he is exposing his
superiors so that he himself can aquire a lesser
sentence, or what a convicted child molester might
tell them about a ritual child abuse ring that he has
been involved with? No, especially if there is
sufficient evidence to back up their claims. Someone
who has been involved personally with some illicit
activity can be more of a reliable source than
someone who just hears about it second-hand. So the
character assassination strategy by certain agents
does not hold water especially in a case such as
this, wherein ParaNet officials have had their
character and integrity UNJUSTLY attacked in order to
DIVERT ATTENTION from the subject at hand, OR TO
DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THE LACK OF INTEGRITY OR
OUTRIGHT DECIETFULNESS OF THESE 'AGENTS' THEMSELVES.
I personally do not claim to be the infallible
specimen of a perfect human being. I have a jail
record, and suffer from emotional and psychological
disabilities resulting from years of suppressed
interactions with what I believe to be malevolent
alien agendas and certain human agencies which are or
were involved with them. Although the
psychological-emotional turmoil or instability may
not be entirely my fault, the jail term was a result
of my own irresponsibility. What I am trying to say
is that I do not CLAIM to have it all together any
more than the average human being does, so why engage
in 'character assassination' against someone who
lives in a world whose overall inhabitants are
generally lacking in perfect character? Show me
someone with full awareness of "good and
evil" who has never broken a law or one of the
ten commandments. Aside from the Messiah Himself,
there is no human being on earth that can make such a
claim. And most often then not, when someone targets
an individual for character assassination, as they
say, "It takes one to know one." So in the
search for the truth about what is really happening
in this world, I would suggest that you do not get
caught-up in emotional exchanges and character
attacks which only serve to cloud the real issue --
which is WHETHER THE INFORMATION ITSELF IS OR IS NOT
CORRECT! This is not to say that 'character' has no
bearing whatsoever on information. For instance
someone who has been known in the past to be a con
artist might not be taken as seriously as an ORIGINAL
SOURCE of information as, you might say, someone who
has won a Pulitzer prize for investigative
journalism. However we do need to keep a 'balance'. -
Branton)
Exactly the opposite,
actually. Most of our people are grateful for the
warning, and are coming to the same conclusions as we
did.
PP> Instead of making an
honest attempt to validate or disprove our
PP>
findings regarding the subjects mentioned --
missing the point
PP>
completely, you chose to become obsessed with
determining
PP>
the identity of Phoenix Project personnel. For
what reason? Do
PP>
you intend to judge the validity of the
information based on the
PP>
credentials of those providing it? Some people
would interpret
PP>
that as putting the cart before the horse.
And some people would
interpret it as a determination not to fall prey to
the same fate as far too many others in this field,
who trusted strangers too easily and ended up wasting
years chasing wild geese -- or worse...
PP> You suggest a possible
link between our organization and America
PP>
West. Sorry about that, but you're dead wrong. It
has come
PP>
to us from several sources that we're not on
their list of favorite
PP>
people. We will take this opportunity to
categorically deny that
PP>
we have any affiliation with America West, their
publication the
PP>
"Phoenix Liberator," or any other
publication they provide. Do
PP>
not expect us to respond to the other
coincidences, suppositions,
PP>
insinuations or innuendoes contained in your
message.
Why? Perhaps because
there are other 'insinuations' that cannot be
truthfully denied? As a matter of fact, we now have
solid confirmation of another one of our
'insinuations' -- i.e., the fact that the Richard
Miller who owns Advent Publishing is indeed the same
Richard Miller who used to channel 'Hatonn'. That
confirmation came from none other than Mr. Miller
himself. So I guess we're not doing too badly.
In consideration of
your explicit denials of any ties to America West,
and in view of the additional information provided
privately by Mr. Miller, we withdraw our previous
suggestion of possible connections between the
Phoenix Project and the America West/Phoenix
Liberator operation. As we stated before, those
suggestions were tentative pending further
investigation, and further investigation has not
uncovered any additional evidence to support them.
Unfortunately, this is the kind of burden that the
Phoenix Project inevitably took on when it chose to
publicly portray itself as a clandestine
organization.
PP> Since you brought up
America West and The "Phoenix
Liberator,"
PP>
why not turn your investigative abilities loose
on their
PP>
organization. Just suppose that Milton Cooper is,
quietly,
PP>
linked to their organization. That should
intrigue you...
PP>
Equally intriguing, is where their funding comes
from - not the
PP>
obvious subscription income - the covert funding.
Or, how about
PP>
the busy and numerous, off premise, writers that
prepare the volumes
PP>
of 'Hatonn' material, and their use of high-speed
modems to provide
PP>
the copy for each weekly issue of the
"Phoenix Liberator" and the
PP>
dozens of books they produce. In our supposition,
we're talking
PP>
about a big-time operation. You might also check
out their printing
PP>
facilities, distribution centers, and world-wide
circulation. Equally
PP>
fascinating is their sudden rise, in a few short
years, to the top of
PP>
the New Age Movement. You might even think to ask
yourself, why the
PP>
New Age Movement? What possible connection is
there with covert
PP>
government UFO activities, or a New World Order,
with the New Age
PP>
Movement? The answer to that might be revealed,
if you dig deep
PP>
enough, and discover high-speed modem links
between their headquarters
PP>
and certain organizations located at Langley and
Ft. Meade. Yes, if
PP>
you really dig, you might uncover all kinds of
interesting things
PP>
about America West.
Thanks for the tip.
(I may be wrong,
but this sounds very similar to the ramblings of
cultists who have broken off from the 'mother'
sect to establish their own branch cults...
essentially agreeing with the basic 'belief
system' -- which in this case might be the
channeling of 'Ashtar' intelligence's -- while at
the same time claiming that 'they' and not their
former 'apostate leaders' are the sole spokesmen
for the 'higher powers' on earth. As for the
religious 'denomination' in which I was raised,
one which dominates a major western state and
stretches the Constitutional restrictions on
separation of church and state to their uttermost
limits, I have come to find out that over 500
'branch' religions ranging from a few followers
to tens of thousands of followers have separated
from the 'main' denomination. This is one of the
main reasons why I became a non-denominationalist
Judeo-Christian. One of these 500-or-so branches
incidentally was the 'Freeman Order' which was
involved in a drawn-out FBI stand-off in 1996.
The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights allows
for the right to worship as one wishes SO LONG AS
one does not infringe on the constitutional
rights of others and the laws of the land. Of
course 'inquisitional' or 'terrorist' religious
practices, or the 'religious' practice of ritual
child abuse, or religious institutions that
attempt to force their will upon an elected
government, or one whose members in government
use taxpayer funds or personal influence to show
political favoritism towards their 'churches',
have no place in a Constitutional
Democratic-Republic. Nor does a our
Constitutional system have to put up with cults
like the 'Freemen' who have blatantly resisted
the PUBLICLY-instituted legal restrictions
against money fraud or child sexual abuse, even
if the 'Freeman' or similar cults hypocritically
use 'Ruby Ridge', 'Waco' or other legitimate yet
incendiary catch-phrases to justify their own
illegal activities. - Branton)
PP> As to your effort in
trying to identify staff personnel of the
PP>
Phoenix Project -- good luck. However, we do have
to admit that
PP>
you may get lucky and hit on a couple of them.
However, since
PP>
there are many, it is doubtful you will ever get
beyond that point.
Our only interest in
the personnel of the Phoenix Project is to determine
whether the Project has a hidden agenda, and whether
it is covertly linked to other organizations whose
agendas are known. That interest was made necessary
by the Project's clandestine nature and consequent
lack of public accountability. You brought it on
yourselves, and your continuing hostility and
evasiveness suggest that we were not entirely
mistaken in our suspicions.
Our investigation
continues. We'll let you know what we find out.
Michael Corbin
Director
ParaNet Information
Service
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